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🖤Nerio🖤
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Posted: 02-01-2020 00:00 AM
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Posted: 02-01-2020 00:00 AM » Editted: 02-01-2020 00:16 AM

Ok, I wanna start off by saying, right now might be a difficult time the bring up this issue. That being said I thought it was important enough to bring up. So for the last few months I have noticed some issues that is detremintal to the sites health and to be quite blunt more could be done to stop it by the staff team. I may cause trouble here time from time and I have done and said things that I regret but ultimatley I really do wants best for the site and I know Im not the only one having these issues. Ok so what is the probelm? Well, the site is constantly geting new users but a good number of them are just trolling or are underage and that is driving off any would be legitmate users as well as some vetren ones as well. Personally in the last 4 months i've dealt with 2 catfish attempts from people on dupe accounts and have at least had 7 users admit to me they were underage when I asked them. Obviously this is unavoidible on any social media, but when I and other users as well report these people with screenshots and other proof and nothing is done about, that is just a recipe to kill the site. I really hate to say this but at least from my prespective it seems staff are really slacking on their job. Heres a prime example I know everyone will understand, a certain user has been messaging everyone online asking them to be their "daddy" or "mommy", after litterally harassing the whole site for a month or two he was banned but came back with an alt only to still log in from time to time and do the same thing. While you may read this and say "well pete they banned him" yes but personally I have reported these kinds of people with proof like screenshots and have watched nothing happen, I heard similiar things from other users as well. I hope Im not misunderstanding things and there is some issue preventing staff from helping but i dont know. The purpose of this isnt to lower morale but hopefully find a solution, granted that could take time. If things like this keeps happening more users will decide to not log in again to the site instead of dealing with these sorts of people. Personally I want to see new users and make new friends, but that means we need to have the RIGHT new users and do everything we can to keep them. It might also help to flag dupe accounts from the same Ip?

On a final note, id like anyone who has expiernced what im talking about to give an example of a problem they had if they feel comfortable, or if you disagree with me tell me why. Seriously any input would be nice



Anya Underworld
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I agree one hundred percent. Although my only choice of option was blocking and deleting. Some things can feel a little kiddy for me. Maybe let some of the banned people return, see if we can get veterans back. Get the site going again. It seems really lonely on here. Some people don't even have reasons to log on anymore. Its a shame.

Kendra
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Posted: 02-01-2020 12:01 PM
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Posted: 02-01-2020 12:01 PM » Editted: 02-01-2020 12:02 PM

>> Pete

I have agree and disagree with you on some points.
The fact that mods / staff aren't doing their job does seem to be a problem, I haven't seen many of them active. And the one mod who I've only ever chatted with (going unnamed to protect their identity) does do their job, but they get a lot of hate for it most of the time. I feel like new mods need to be put in place, if users are willing.
On another point, I know the user in reference (obviously, I'm pretty sure everyone does at this point) and what they're doing technically isn't wrong. They're going around asking for play with people, which isn't against any rules. However, I had to tell that user no more than once, which does count as sexual harassment. I regret not reporting it soooner but it was simple to just block.
The mods can ban a user as needed, but that won't stop them from making another account. There's no rule against that. You're free to continue making accounts, but I agree, it should be put in place to get an IP ban if a user continues to absuse the system. Especially if they harass users or are still underage when they make accounts.

>> Anya

The people who were banned were banned for a reason. Theres literally only four rules to this website and they got stupid enough to break one. But again, there's nothing against stopping a user from just re-creating a new account, that's perfectly fine. While I agree with you that there's not enough active users on there, unbanning those who sexually harassed or bullied another user won't change anything. The reason I (and apparently so many others) left, is because there were toxic users on this site. I was personally bullied by many and there was nothing that could or would be done about it. Mostly because said toxic users were friends with a mod. Things wouldn't be bad if the site had mods who knew how to stand up for what's right and do it correctly. Meaning they need to have no problem banning their friends or family and judge fairly, or if they feel too conflicted over their friends, need to pass it along to a mod who does not know them. Un-banning users won't do anything for site popularity, at all. If anything, us, the users, should spread the FT site around their social media, bring in other furrs who need a place to go.
 

TL;DR - The only thing I can add to this thread is:
- Get new / active mods on the job
- Ban an IP address after multiple counts of banishment, harassment, or underage abuse
- Don't un-ban users
- Spread Furrtrax around your social media for more users to join



🖤Nerio🖤
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Posted: 02-01-2020 12:19 PM
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Posted: 02-01-2020 12:19 PM » Editted: 02-01-2020 12:23 PM

>>Kendra

I 100% see your point on the toxic users, at one point it was a HUGE problem and that is what half killed the site at one point. It left a sort of power vacuum when they left which IMO is getting filled by the wrong people (trolls etc) which is what were seeing currently. Honestly mod toxictiy is a thing to, ive seen a certain mod clear chat once simiply for the fact they didnt like me and another user sharing a bunch of lewd photos in the yiff chat, ive also been threatened to be banned for calling someone out on a dupe account and arguing with them in the chatroom, because I was causing "drama" which I may have been in the wrong to cause a fuss but it isnt necessarily against the rules. The pattern i see is, "oh I dont like this let me use my power to stop it" while ive seen people 100% break the rules and nothing happen. I totally know what you mean about the mods befriending people, clearly there are some mods that arent mature enough to be involved with the community and not bring their bias into the mix when time comes to do their job. Obviously they are people to and can like and dislike certain users but it shouldnt have any bearing on deciscions made.



Siris
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Posted: 02-16-2020 14:05 PM
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As a long standing mod I feel I have a right to weigh in. Now I've been on the mod team a long time and I'll admit I probably do not know many of the mods coming around here anymore so I can not speak on their behavior, character, etc. But I will say I think you overestimate the powers actually deligated to the moderation team. I, for the sake of security, won't go into the full details of waht we can and can not do but I can assure you it is not as extensive as what you are claiming. What you are looking for is a site administrator not a moderator, unfortunately. Far as people harassing others (and again i can only speak personally on this) It takes a lot of time to monitor chats, discussions, and what not that just really is not always available. I puruse profiles and occasionally peek in on the chats to see what is going on but the best way to get attention is always with a report. Reports go straight to all of us when they are filed. So not to challenge the users here but for something that is such an issue I have seen very little in ways of reports to notify me of the problem. I can assure you should I see an issue I will address it as best I am able but it is also fair to say that the staff (who work unpaid mind you) can not be everywhere at once to see everything. In the end you the users are our best set of eyes.



🖤Nerio🖤
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Posted: 02-20-2020 16:32 PM » Editted: 02-20-2020 16:32 PM

I wanted to update this and say thank you to the mods. One of the people I was reffering to was banned. Im sure I can speak for alot when I say we are all extremely appreciative for who ever looked into this and glad to not have our inboxes spammed. 



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As long as i have been on the site (Witch is a wile) i have seen off and on about precented issues, and the difficulty on the problems

but as of the mods, siris ill have to agree with you on the end user's to be the modderation team's only eyes at the time of user abuse

with that said the trouble that keeps popping up over these last few years is in reguards to user's not only reporting it but not making

sure that an active mod is notified at the time of action, im not trying to bash anyone or anything but sometimes extra effort is needed

when taking action, do it with enough speed and memory so that the problem will be handled just as fast and the trouble with no longer

hinder the community and life go's on, but the bullying mintality and the degeneratcy these days can come as an the biggest pain in the

neck so i can understand the mods and the difficulty they deal with (doing it without being paid to do so, which im sorry these days you cant get any workers that are willing to do what this sites mods are doing)

now don't get me wrong i have came across mods i really didn't like at all but i kept my mouth shut mainly because of the respect i had

for not just one mod but all of them because i understood them

 



Birdy Blu
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Posted: 03-25-2020 08:52 AM » Editted: 03-25-2020 08:56 AM
I am going to agree with Siris on the overestimating portion. There is only a select few things we as MODS can do. What I see I do try to work with as best possibly depending on the situation. I 100% see the people you've spoken of seeing as they were in my inbox aswell and I dealt with it during that time as best I could. The key here is to -report and -share this website to your own socials for a more positive growth for this site. Very few that I see report, though a few of the more seasoned members do so, and we thank you! As of now I believe most of our growth is from people stumbling onto the site by accident and or an extensive Google search. If you EVER need a quick response please feel free to email me at [email protected] This is my email for a combination of my social jobs, just let me know the problem and if able proof is always helpful to making a fair decision! Keep in mind that we are volunteers to our job, and we won't always be online to keep an eye out no matter how we try. I believe we all need to work together to be proactive if we want this site to continue growing. --> -->

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